Saturday, 30 April 2016

OBC Creamy and non creamy layer -How to get OBC certificate ?

What is OBC?
Other Backward Class (OBC) is a collective term used by the Government of India to classify castes which are socially and educationally disadvantaged. It is one of several official classifications of the population of India, along with Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (SCs and STs). 

How do I know if I belong to OBC or not  ?

The above link will help you decide if you belong to BC (Backward class) community. Further ,BC is classified into creamy layer and non creamy layer. If you belong to Non creamy layer ,then you belong to OBC.


What is Creamy layer ?
The term creamy layer was first coined by Justice Krishna Iyer in 1975 in State of Kerala vs NM Thomas case, wherein he observed that the benefits of reservation are snatched away by the top creamy layer of the 'backward' caste or class, thus keeping the weakest among the weak always weak.
They are not eligible for government sponsored benefits in education and employment.
In UPSC, there are separate cutoffs for the General category and OBC category .The cutoff of the OBC category is slightly lower than the General Cutoff.

The  candidates belonging to creamy layer are taken under “General Category’
Please Note -The creamy layer is only applicable in the case of Other Backward Castes and not applicable on other group like SC or ST. 

Who belongs to Creamy layer ?

For children of persons in civil services, please note that the below list belongs to creamy layer





Important Note –
  1.         If you belong to creamy layer because of the above conditions ,you will continue to fall in creamy layer even after your parents retire from service.
  2. .       YOUR INCOME/STATUS DOES NOT MATTER.  Creamy layer is based on the status of your parents and has nothing to do with your income/status nor the status/income of your spouse.
  3. .       Eligibility regarding  government employee is based upon his level, and not his salary. Example –If your parents are earning 7 lakhs and they are below group B officers ,you will still come under ‘NON CREAMY LAYER.’


For children of PUBLIC SECTOR UNDERTAKINGS/PRIVATE SECTOR


If you  are not able to establish equivalence vis-à-vis government jobs,then
Compute the income of your parents from salaries and income from other sources separately.(Income from other sources excludes salaries and agricultural land)

Income from Salaries(FOR 3 CONSECUTIVE YEARS)
Income from other sources(FOR 3 CONSECUTIVE YEARS)
STATUS
More than 6 lakhs
More than 6 lakhs
CREAMY LAYER
Less than 6 lakhs
More than 6 lakhs
CREAMY LAYER
More than 6 lakhs
Less than 6lakhs
CREAMY LAYER
Less than 6 lakhs
Less than 6 lakhs
NON CREAMY LAYER

FOR CHILDREN OF  “PROFESSIONAL CLASS AND THOSE ENGAGED IN TRADE AND INDUSTRY “
Professional class means doctor, lawyer, management consultant , artist, film actor, engineer, architect, sportsperson, media professional , etc.

If the Gross annual income is less than 6 lakhs and wealth is above exemption limit , you shall be treated as “CREAMY LAYER”.
Note -For computation of gross annual income, do not include ‘Income from salaries and income from agricultural land’

I belong to non creamy layer .How do I get certicate for the UPSC exam ?
OBC certificate along with ‘non creamy layer’ mention has to be obtained from the local Tahsildar.

What is the validity period of my OBC certificate ?



IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUERIES ,PLEASE LEAVE COMMENTS BELOW.


250 comments:

  1. sir my father is deputy collector(not directly recruited) will i come under creamy layer ?

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    1. If your father has become deputy collector before the age of 40 years ,then you will fall under creamy layer .
      If your mother is a group B officer, then also you will fall under creamy layer.

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    2. No sir my father became deputy collector just two years ago

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    3. and my mother is housewife

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    4. Sir I got non creamy layer certificate based on my fathers govt job.After getting certificate my mother started business and annual income of business is above 6 lakh.What should I do now.In the exam I put my caste as obc non creamy layer

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  2. Sir my annual income is 6.5 lakhs per annum should I add that amount in other income category when I apply for obc certificate

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    1. hi ,
      your income does not come into consideration anywhere.
      OBC status is on the basis of income/status of your parents.

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    2. Hi, but there was a rule that if the applicant is a doc/engineer or such a professional, then the parent's income should be not more than 1 lakh per annum for the candidate to be eligible for nc. Is that true?

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    3. Hi,
      can you please share the source of the rule ?
      I just went through the government orders. I didnot find any such rule there.

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  3. Thanks for your reply Sir but my area VAO is asking for my income details so thought of confirming it

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    1. You can submit your income details .However , YOUR INCOME DOES NOT COME INTO CONSIDERATION FOR OBC STATUS .
      You can take a copy of GO(Government Order) and give it to your area VAO.

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  4. Sir, july 2014 i have bought my OBC certificate is that valid now or Do i have to renew ?

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    1. Hi Saranya ,
      you have to renew your certificate . Because usually, the validity of the certificate is for one year.

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  5. sir, my father works in a private company and earns 5.52 lacs per annum and my mom is a teacher earning 4.20 p.a. while applying for the obc nc cert. do i need to mention both the incomes or just my father's

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    1. both of your parents income should be mentioned, if they are not government servants.

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  6. im bc-c both my father and mother are govt employees do i belong to creamy layer & should i mention bcc or oc in the application form

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    1. what is the position of your parents in government ? please be clear so that i can help you.thank you.

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  7. Hello sir, some people says OBC certificate will valid only to rural backward people.Is it right? I'm leaving in Urban area, my family income was below 6 lakhs/annum..can i opt under non creamy layer?

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    1. there is no such rule as urban and rural criteria in determining OBC status.

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    2. Thank you sir.

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  8. Hello sir, i have a obc certificate which was issued to us in 2008. Now do i need to renew it ?
    My father is class 3 govt.employee and his salary is more then 6lc for past 3yrs. Am i eligible for ncl obc quota ?

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    1. 1. you have to renew your obc certificate.
      2. if your father is a class 3 government employee ,you still belong to OBC non creamy layer. salary does not matter in this case.

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  9. Sir.
    My father is a retired group B employee and my mother is a retired group C employee

    Do I fall under creamy layer?

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    1. Hi Soumia,
      you do not fall under creamy layer.

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    2. Sir

      In practise, the local village authorities do not adhere to the terms mentioned in the Official Notification.
      They simply rely on annual gross income of the family. If the candidate declares his/her income, that too is included for calculating the creamy layer limit.How to go about this? Because of this many genuine candidates are deprived of the opportunity.

      further, many of the authorities are not aware of the fact that the creamy layer criteria is based on the status of the candidate's parents (if they are govt employees) and not by their income. Such a deep misunderstanding prevails all over. Even the forms they provide does not contain appropriate coloumns.

      Sir, how to address this lacunae. It's a serious breach of govt guidelines, surprisingly by the govt officials themselves.

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    3. Hi Soumia,
      If the local village authorities do not accept,please go the tehsiladar .And if you still need help, let me know.

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  11. what is the validity of obc non-creamy layer certificate? above information not cleary understandable...please reply..

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    1. Hi Sunil,
      validity of OBC non creamy layer certificate is 1year.

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  12. people please do visit obcguru.com for more information.....

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  13. Sir my father was direct class3 employee and got class 1 at 56 years and my mother is also class 3 employee! Am I eligible for obc ncl?

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    1. hi ,
      as per your information you belong to non creamy layer.

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  15. sir my girlfriend belongs to obc category and i belong to general category.. both of us are are working in bank...im a po and she is a clerk...presently she enjoys obc benefits as her father income is less than 5 lakhs... what will be her status after marriage if we marry....

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    1. her obc status will not change after marriage .

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  16. Hi sir, I am married. I should get obc certificate with my father name or husband name? My fathers residing in other state and we are residing in other state. Where should I get the obc?

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    1. hi,
      you should get your obc certificate from your father's place.

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    2. Sir, Is it ok to have father's name as initial in OBC NCL certificate after marriage.

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  18. Respected Sir, there is only my mother, father passed away and my mother is dependent on me so what income would be the criteria for OBC certificate as I am earning more than 6 lakhs.

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    1. hi,
      1. IGNORE your income.
      2. what was your father doing ? was he a govt servant ?
      3. was your mother working before ?
      please give me these details, to help you arrive at obc status.

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  19. can we have different format of bc certi right now and renew it once we need it in interview with prescribed format in upsc??

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    1. i would suggest you to have the same certificate. get your certificate now,so that you can use it further when you clear .

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  20. Respected Sir,
    I have OBC non creamy layer certificate obtained on 08/08/2014. If I want to apply UPSC CSP 2016 is it enough or I have to renew it?. Because some website said that the validity of OBC non creamy layer certificate is 3 years. Can I renew the OBC non creamy layer certificate after clearing prelims?

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    1. my suggestion would be to renew it right away .

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  21. Vishnu Vardhan4 May 2016 at 03:47

    Dear Sir,
    My father is a Daily Wager and My Mother is working as BT assitant in Govt School. Her age is 47. Currently my mother's salary is above Rs 6,00,000 /-. Will I be in Creamy Layer ?

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    1. hi Vishnnu,
      Without any doubt ,you fall under "non creamy layer "

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  23. I have OBC non creamy layer certificate obtained on 27/8/2013.if i want to apply for upsc csp 2016 should i renew it or is it enough?.In that OBC certificate it is mentioned it is valied for 5 yrs

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    1. UPSC usually prefers certificates that are not more than 1 year old .Hence, I suggest you to renew.

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  24. Sir,
    Can I know the land holding ceiling limit for agricultural land to get obc certificate.

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  25. sir,
    I have applied for CSE(upsc) as OBC creamy layer.since my father is an class-II employee and have more than 6lakh income(from salary) for 3 con.yrs.whether i hv to get OBC certificate as CREAMY LAYER.(since,i'll nt get any benefit as obc)

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    1. If your father is a class 2 employee ,then you fall under 'non creamy layer '
      For government servants ,the income test does not apply.

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    2. Dear Sir

      You have clarified that the income test does not apply to govt. servants but are the wards of govt. servants exempt from wealth tax too ?

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    4. Correction - Are the wards of govt. servants exempt from Wealth test too ?

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  26. Sir I dont have OBC certificate right now in my hand. Can I give just give a random date as of now and obtain OBC certificate later and submit the obtained certificate during the time of verification?

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    1. Giving a wrong date is not the right thing to do .
      Either give the date of your community certificate or I would suggest you to call the UPSC helpline and clarify.

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  27. sir my father is a Headmaster(Gazetted) in govt.middle school and my mother is a primary school teacher,and our family annual income crosses 600000 L
    am i creamy layer or not ?

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    1. you do not belong to creamy layer.

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    2. thank you sir
      sir i have wrongly chosen creamy layer status . is there any chance to change the submitted application ?
      or can i make fresh application ?

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  28. sir my father is a Headmaster(Gazetted) in govt.middle school and my mother is a primary school teacher,and our family annual income crosses 6 Lakhs
    am i creamy layer or not ?

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  29. sir i have wrongly chosen creamy layer status . is there any chance to change the submitted application ?
    or can i make fresh application ?

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  30. Sir my father is an vegetable seller & annual income is less than 4lakh. I'm preparing for CSE, do I'm eligible to obtain OBC non creamy certificate. If yes, then from where. I'm resident of Mumbai

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  32. If both of the parents not govt.employees. and they have income only from other sources and not comes under wealth tax payers. For FY2013-14--₹620000,FY2014-15--610000 & FY2015-16--₹560000.What about the OBC NON CREAMY LAYER condition of son/daughter of the parents in the financial year 2016-17. Will they come under creamy layer or non creamy layer?

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  33. Sir today 6 candidate has been disqualified from services based on salary criteria in obc, can you please give some light about the issue, students who are preparing are deeply concerned about it

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    1. from which service? cse?

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    2. Hi Harish,
      Lets be clear .
      INCOME CATEGORY OF THE CANDIDATE IS NOT THE BASIS FOR DISQUALIFICATION.
      The candidates who are disqualified are children of Public/Private sector employees who have an annual salary of more than 6lakhs.

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    3. But for children of public sector employees, income criteria does not apply na?..have they changed the rules?

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    5. yes soumia,now a psu peon's ward can be a creamy layer where as ward of DSP (group B) be non creamy layer.
      govt has not come up with the equivalant posts/class in psu's since last 23 years and now punishing us.

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    6. yes soumia,now a psu peon's ward can be a creamy layer where as ward of DSP (group B) be non creamy layer.
      govt has not come up with the equivalant posts/class in psu's since last 23 years and now punishing us.

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    7. How can do that...that decision should be challenged in the court of law... Candidates should not leave the thing as such...

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  34. Hello Sir.
    My father's income from all sources (agriculture + private job) is less than Rs 6,00,000. I belong to the central list of OBC. At the time of filling UPSC CSE 2016 Prelims application form I did not have OBC certificate, so I applied as OBC (Creamy Layer).
    Sir, do I still need to produce OBC certificate before UPSC at any stage since OBC (Creamy Layers) are regarded as general category candidates?

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    1. OBC Creamy layer candidates do not have to produce any certificate.

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  35. Hello Sir, as per the last para (note 6) in chapter 2 of http://persmin.gov.in/DOPT_Brochure_Reservation_SCSTBackward_Index.asp document, where the scope of reservation is discussed, income from salary and agriculture will not be clubbed for the income/wealth test of sons and daughters of PSU employees. The income from sources other than above should not exceed 6 lac per anum as per this. Can you please confirm this and correct me if my understanding is wrong. Also, please share the real reason behind the disqualification of supposedly 120 candidates from the UPSC-2015 final list, if you have any pointers on the same?

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    1. hi anvesh,from where to compare equivalent posts/class for jobs in psu?

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    2. I think that is one of the contentious issues right now because of which 35 of candidates from final list, who are also wards of PSU employees are not allocated any service. So, ideally the PSUs should've defined this with the help of related government authorities. As they haven't done it so far, the candidates may face disqualification. At the outset, this seems to be unjust as DoPT is taking action on these grounds for the first time.

      See this for BSNL: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4bHcP6ebSokJ:www.stp.bsnl.co.in/jurisdiction/PAY%2520SCALES%2520OF%2520CADRES%2520IN%2520STP.htm+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in&client=firefox-b

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    3. thanks anvesh,if you see the rules are same for last 23 years,the change was just that the upper limit for income/wealth test has been raised to 6 lakhs.there is no clarity as one can see at one place they have given that while calculating gross income "income from salary and agriculture " shd not be clubbed

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    4. Yes,you are correct...In the latest report it has been mentioned clearly that salary income wont be clubbed...Half of the popluation don't have any clear knowledge yet they give their views.

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  38. Sir,
    If person is migrated from state A to state B 25 years back and has got domicile from state b .From where should he get his caste certificate ,state a or b?

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    1. Your caste certificate comes from the place of your parents.

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  39. sir my father works as an -associate professor- in govt aided engineering college in coimbatore - so salary above 6lpa .
    in that case which category i fall ? please provide information sir in dire need of it.....
    thank you

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  40. i think i am belong to OBC non creamy layer,when i appled prelims. after filling UPSC DAF , I observed my Category as OBC creamy layer. How to correct this?

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  42. Hello Sir,
    I had to apply for new OBC NCL certificate for Interview. I went to the e-Centre.
    I have an ITR of my father. He is Group- C employee (Teacher) with more than 30 year service. This year gross income is 6.15 lakh.
    The person sitting there told me that I can't be issued OBC certificate as I fall in creamy layer. He only knows 6L is criteria.
    I showed him relevant clauses which he hardly understands. (Group- C/III, Culmulative: 5.2L+5.8L+6.15L, Agri-Salary-Other Sources)He told the Revenue Inspector to whom he forwards doesn't allow certificates for income above 6L. Whom do I contact to make sure the issuing authority is made to understands the basic clause.
    The worrying aspect is everyone nearby is showing less income by editing due to this. He asked me to do the same. I asked him to forward it with 6.15 L income.
    Whom do I have to contact if RI doesn't not get the point? SDM or DM or anyone else?

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    1. Contact SDM or DM..lodge a written complaint with DM. If no response file a RTI..this situation prevails all over..local villages blindly stick on to the 6 L criteria... Its a grave injustice to the candidates..

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  43. Sir...my father is a BSNL employee and his salary is over 6lakhs...will I come under non creamy layer????

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  44. sir link to the Govt. order, which should be shown to tahsildar.

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  45. Sir my father is stenographer to district judge in civil court and we belong to obc central list as well as in state list but his annual income is 6,72,000 then do I come under creamy or non creamy layer

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  46. Hi sir. i am saisasikanth , my father is working as Assistant commissioner in municipality but he joined as health assistant and mother is head master (govt school)joined as primary school teacher .Will i come under creamy layer or non creamy layer

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  47. hello sir my father is working in NLC in neyveli he joined in 1985 with just 500 rs salary as technician but now he receives more than 6 lac per annum will i come under creamy layer ??? because they have rejected many people now due to income criteria

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  48. Sir
    My father is Tgt teacher and my mother is primary teacher. Do I belong to creamy layer or non creamy layer.

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  50. Dear sir,
    My father is a bsnl employee(PSU) as SDE..her annual income is more than 6 lakh rupees but he is recruit as a group d and now he is in group b officer..am I eligible for non creamy layer certificate or not?? Please give reply sir..
    I am confused sir because when I have apply for NCL certificate they said you are not eligible for NCL because your father income is more than 6 lakh rupees even i am say that my father is a group b officer and they are recruit as a group d employee but they refuse my argument and said this criteria does not include only 6 lakh annual income will be treated..so sir please clear my doubt ... please sir it's humble request to you please give reply as soon as possible

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  51. Sir,i had applied in general category in previous attemps,can i apply now as obc candidate as i belong to obc category?

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  52. Sir , father is working in a private concern, mother is housewife. FY12-13, 13-14 less than 6Lakhs and 14-15 has become 6,60,000. Do I come under OBC NC or not ?

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  53. Sir
    My father was retired from indian army (group c) but they wasn't more.my mother was also Government Employe (Group c).
    Q.1)my father pension was considered in income certificate?
    2)If this was considered then my father and mother total income is more than 6 lack.
    Then I am eligible for non creamy certificate ?

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  54. Respected Sir,
    My father is working in Life insurance corporation of India as a class 3 employee. His gross salary is around 8 Lakh per annum. We are belongs to OBC catagory. We don't have any other sources of income. So i want to know whether i am eligible to issue the OBC non creamy layer certificate or not ?

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    1. Respected R.A.Israel Jebasingh IAS, Please reply to

      Anonymous12 August 2016 at 00:21
      Respected Sir,
      My father is working in Life insurance corporation of India as a class 3 employee. His gross salary is around 8 Lakh per annum. We are belongs to OBC catagory. We don't have any other sources of income. So i want to know whether i am eligible to issue the OBC non creamy layer certificate or not ?

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  56. Hi Sir,

    I belongs to OBC category. and my parents income below 2 lakhs. but i m married now and my husband income is more than 12 lakh /annum. and i am also working but my income is below 5 lakh. under category i will fall in .. creamy or non creamy..Please tell me. we both are software engineer

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    1. THE INCOME OF YOUR SPOUSE IS NOT CONSIDERED. Creamy layer is considered based on the the income of your parents.

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  57. Hi Sir, I have one more doubt. before marriage i was on non creamy layer obc category. after marriage for ladies it is based on parents or husband?

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  58. sir,my father is a business man(real estate) with annual income of around 5 lac. We belong to one of the obc category from bihar.Am i eligible for upsc under obc quota?

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  59. Sir my father was at constitutional post, now he retired . Will I be treated in creamy or non creamy.

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  60. Sir
    My father was retired from indian army (group c) but they wasn't more.my mother was also Government Employe (Group c).
    Q.1)my father pension was considered in income certificate?
    2)If this was considered then my father and mother total income is more than 6 lack.
    Then I am eligible for non creamy certificate ?

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  61. Dear Sir,

    I am a retired Jr. Warrant Officer of Indian Air Force and my wife is teacher in Kendriya Vidyalaya. Currently I am working in Gulf and our joint income crosses the limit of 6 lakhs. Do my children get the OBC non-creamy layer benefit.

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  63. my parents are both state govt employees but below group2 level and their income both combine above 6 lakh. my father will be retiring this month and my mother has 4 years service.
    what is the statutory ceiling area limit can you please elaborate on it. Is there any absolute fig

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  64. Dear Sir,

    My father is a class A officer in Nuclear Fuel Complex, Dept. of Atomic Energy, which is an independent department. Could you please tell me if I belong to creamy layer or the income criteria would be considered in my case. Thanks, Bharat

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    1. Dear Sir,

      Could you please provide your suggestions. Also, I recently searched and in GOI directory, NFC is mentioned as PSU. I am not sure now, how authentic that info. is and should the income criteria be applied in my case. Please help.
      Thanks, Bharat

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  67. Hello Sir,
    I had to apply for new OBC NCL certificate for Interview. I went to the e-Centre.
    I have an ITR of my father. He is Group- C employee with more than 30 year service. This year gross income is 6.5 lakh.
    The person sitting there told me that I can't be issued OBC certificate as I fall in creamy layer. He only knows 6L is criteria.
    I showed him relevant clauses which he hardly understands. (Group- C/III, Culmulative: 5.2L+5.8L+6.15L, Agri-Salary-Other Sources)He told the Revenue Inspector to whom he forwards doesn't allow certificates for income above 6L. Whom do I contact to make sure the issuing authority is made to understands the basic clause.
    The worrying aspect is everyone nearby is showing less income by editing due to this. He asked me to do the same. I asked him to forward it with 6.15 L income.
    Whom do I have to contact if RI doesn't not get the point?

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  69. Sir ,am 32 years old married female belongs to obc.my father's income is below 6 lacs.I went to village officer he told me as am married I shud GT certificate of my husband income and I shud apply it in my hubbys place.s DS the correct way?

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  70. sir, my father is retired (A.E)Asistant Engineer in MSEB (Maharashtra state Electiriciy Board). At the time of retirement his sarary was 10 lac per annum. And, Now I am working in private sector as a s/w engineer with 6.65 lac per annum salary. I am going to prepare for UPSC Exam . So, I am in non creamy layer or not ?

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    1. No. your OBC status depends on the income of your parents and not your husband. Kindly show him the Government order or please contact the DM.

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    2. Yes but at the time of joining my father was class three officer and at the time of retirement he was class two. So, in that case it depends on father status or its income

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  72. Dear sir,
    I wish to apply for some higher posts but my obc ncl application is rejected as I myself am a class 1 officer ( & medical doctor getting NPA) in a Central Govt. Autonomous organization. My father’s income is less than 3 lakh and he is self employed. Please clarify is the rule 8 in the document ( http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02adm/36033_5_2004-Estt.SCT-14102004.pdf) is applicable in my case or any other reason is there for the rejection of my application. Please share the related documents. Thanks for your efforts in advance.

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  73. Hello sir, I am married and having OBC certificate. While applying for non creamy layer certificate should I have to use my old name before marriage or after marriage name. Please suggest

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  74. I am working in a private company earning well above Rs.6 lakh per annum and of course I belong to a BC community. Does my son belong to OBC non-creamy layer? I ask this question as I am told that salary income is not counted for deciding creamy layer. Krishna

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  75. Kaushal Kishore 12 Sep 2016
    Sir, I am a retired PBOR from Indian Air Force from JWO rank and re-employed as an Auditor and promoted as Senior Auditor with Grade Pay Rs 4200 .My total gross salary exceeded Rs 6.5 Lakh this year .I want OBC Certificate in NCL for my son .
    Kindly guide me with authority if I am eligible for the same.
    Thanking you Sir.

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  76. Kaushal Kishore 12 Sep 2016
    Sir, I am a retired PBOR from Indian Air Force from JWO rank and re-employed as an Auditor and promoted as Senior Auditor with Grade Pay Rs 4200 .My total gross salary exceeded Rs 6.5 Lakh this year .I want OBC Certificate in NCL for my son .
    Kindly guide me with authority if I am eligible for the same.
    Thanking you Sir.

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  77. Sir
    My father is business man and his balancesheet and company balancesheet r different so which in his income company income will also add

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  78. Sir
    My father is business man and his balancesheet and company balancesheet r different so which in his income company income will also add

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  79. Hello sir,
    Can I change my category status from obc nc to general? If not,will I be allotted service under general category if fail to satisfy criteria for non-creamy layer.

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  81. Hello sir my father is class c officer and earn 6 lakhs per annum.do i belong to creamy layer??

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  82. Hello sir my father is class c officer and earn 6 lakhs per annum.do i belong to creamy layer??

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  83. Sir , My father was a central government employee[ income more than 6 lak p.a] and retired in Feb 2016.Now do i belong to Non creamy layer ??? Kindly help

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  84. Hello sir, before marriage i was NCL obc now i am married and my husband B class gazzeted officer. Pls tell me sir now i am NCL obc yes or not.

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  85. Sir,
    Gross annual income for business man will comprise of what, and whether income from other sources are different for him

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  86. Sir, My father is a retired Central Govt. Gr.C employee. I am a Central Govt. Gr.C employee. I own a house worth 20lacs. Though individual neither my father's pension nor my salary cross 6lacs, the sum of the two exceeds 6lacs. Am I eligible for non-creamy layer?

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  87. Hello sir my father working as class 3 staff in Maharashtra state electricity co ltd which is under govt of Maharashtra undertaking and his income is above 6 lakhs ...can I avail benefits of non creamy layer

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  88. Hello sir i am from obc ncl category having required certificate but upsc daf notification 2016 is also asking for scanned proof of status/service/income from other sources etc of parents...what i need to upload under that
    My father is class2 employ under state govt with salary less than 6lakh and my mother is a housewife

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  89. Hello sir i am from obc ncl category having required certificate but upsc daf notification 2016 is also asking for scanned proof of status/service/income from other sources etc of parents...what i need to upload under that
    My father is class2 employ under state govt with salary less than 6lakh and my mother is a housewife

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  90. My name is aman:
    sir please clarify whether income from other sources is added to income from salary/pension to check for 6 lakhs criterion. My father is retired from SBI and earning 4.5 lakh/annum pension. My mother is a housewife but has some FDs whose interests of ~2 lakhs are accrued. so will both be clubbed.

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  91. Sir, my father is a state govt employee who had been directly recruited to group-d class, now promoted to group-B at an age of 51 years. income crosses 6lakhs, do i belong to Non-creamy layer ?

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  92. sir
    my father retired from state govt service as DSP (by promotion) in 2014. he is a pensioner now and does not get FORM 16 that is income tax proof. Now if i submit his IT returns of 2014, 2013 and 12 in DAF will that suffice OR should i get his latest 2015 IT return filed? Please throw some light.

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  93. RESPECTED Sir,i have a doubt .I have obc (nc )certificate in hindi but the form of certificate given in UPSC instructions is in english .Will my obc (nc) certificate in hindi suffice ?

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  94. IS IT returns for 3 yrs of father & mother is required for claiming obc nc status ?my mother is a home maker in that case what to do?SIR PLEASE GUIDE ME . will be highly thankful to you

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  96. Sir,
    My father and mother are both grade C government employees and the annual income crosses 6 lakh. Am I eligible for OBC(NC) certificate?
    Thankyou!

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  97. Sir, What is the equivalent job class/ group does a government high school teacher belongs to ?? Am unable to find my father job class who works as school assistant in Telangana. Please help.

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  98. My parents are working as senior superintendent in KSEB(BY PROMOTION).Do i belong to creamy layer?

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  99. Hi sir namastey,
    My name is Raj Kumar sir I belongs to Bc caste.my father appointed as constable in andhra now he is head constable and now his gross is above 6 lakhs. Please let me now weather I belongs to creamy layer or non creamy layer.

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  100. Hi sir namastey,
    My name is Raj Kumar sir I belongs to Bc caste.my father appointed as constable in andhra now he is head constable and now his gross is above 6 lakhs. Please let me now weather I belongs to creamy layer or non creamy layer.

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  101. Sir my father is daily wage worker and his income is below specified limit till date and i have submitted a non creamy layer certificate issued on dec 2014 for current year notification. Will there be any issues in further process of selection. Any alternatives if there was an issue during recruitment process

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  102. Sir my father is BHEL(PSU) Employee and his salary exceeds 6lakhs per annum. but he is not a group1 or class 1 employee. Can i avail OBC Non Creamy Layer status??

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  103. Sir, from the above discussion I got many answers.
    My caste fall under obc category.
    With the 7th pay commission my father income touched 6 lakh and in September my age is touched 27 year.
    Sir can tell any possibility how much time it willbe taken cabenet to increase the income limit.
    I can't apply in many gov job now.

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  104. if any OBC female candidate joined wbcs A group ,But yearly income below 6 lakhs ,she can attempt IAS exam ? now which fasileties she desarve as obc candidatate ?

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  105. Hello sir
    My dad is a Lt.Colonel in the Indian army and his salary is well above 6 lakhs. But the non creamy layer criteria in the army is applicable to those below the rank of colonel.the rank of a Lt.Colonel is one level below a Colonel. Do i then belong to the ncl of obc? My caste would fall in the obc category

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  106. Sir my mother worked for the state govt but she died many years ago.my father worked as a clerk in a bank and he got promoted as assistant manager after 40 years of age.am I eligible to get obc non creamy layer certificate.annual income is nearly 6 lakhs(only salary)no other source

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  107. Sir,when the non creamy layer certificate will be needed for any exam?....i mean, before interview or before online form filling/....plz reply...plzzzzz

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  108. Respected Israel Sir,

    My both parents are government high school teacher and their annual income now is individually more than 6 lakh and 5 lakh. If I am eligible to get obc non Creamy layer certificate since earlier they were group c employee in state of Telangana and now their salary has increased. Can I only furnish my mother income details or father income details while getting this obc non Creamy layer certificate?

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    1. WHAT IS THE SOURCE THAT THEY BELONGS TO GROUP C??

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  109. Sir, my father became professor at 47 years and he is a lecturer before .my mother is a secondary Grade Teacher.combined income is above 6 lakhs for the past 3 years.but their income is 4 lakhs in 2009 hence I got an obc certificate. Do I come under obc or not?

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  110. sir, My dad was private employee (now retired), My mother is group b employee in govt get gross salary of 6lac plus do i fall in obc non creamy layer or creamy layer

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  111. sir, My dad was private employee (now retired), My mother is group b employee in govt get gross salary of 6lac plus do i fall in obc non creamy layer or creamy layer

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  112. sir my dad is retired get NPS of 1500/ month now which income should i need to posses

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  113. sir, My dad was private employee (now retired), My mother is group b employee in govt get gross salary of 6lac plus now group B do i fall in obc non creamy layer or creamy layer

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  114. Sir,my father currently does not file any ITR as his income is less than Rs. 2.5 lakhs p.a.
    My mother was directly recruited as an ADA in the AP Govt's Department of Agriculture and currently earns approximately 10 lpa.If I give the UPSC exam,will I be considered OBC-NCL,noting that income from salary is not counted?

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  116. sir.. I am obc creamy layer candidate.. i applied all my bank exams as obc candidate. Is there any problem during my interview?

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  117. HELLO SIR I AM A OBC CANDIDATE AGE 42 YEAR II CLASS (LECTURER IN GOVT. HOMEOPATHIC MEDICAL COLLEGE ) OFFICER OF MP GOVT. I AVAIL THAT POST AS A OBC CANDIDATE 14 YEARS BEFORE AND MY ANUUAL INCOME 7 LACKS APPROXIMATE, NOW PRESENTLY I APPLIED FOR PG COURSE AS OBC CANDIDATE IN SAME DEPARTMENT. WHAT I AM ELIGIBLE FOR THAT OBC SEAT OR NOT PLEASE TELL ME SIR

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  118. hello sir...my father is a retired Er from railway as a class 2 officer....now he is working in a PSU ....will his pension be added in the calculation for creamy layer..

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  119. my father is retired government officer(promoted to class I after 40) His income from penson is 5 lakh and from interest from fixed deposit is 3 lakh). will i get NCL?

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  120. Sir,
    My father is a sanitary inspector in Delhi Municipal Corporation.
    His salary increased in last pay commission and is now more than 6 lacs. am i elegible for obc-ncl certificate?

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  121. Sir my father is an OPERATOR in a PSU and his annual gross salary of 8 lakhs . I will fall under non creamy layer or not on basis of equivalence of post ?

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  122. Sir my father's income is 3.70 , 3.98 , 5.15 for yrs 13-14, 14-15 and 15-16

    My mother income is 1.98, 2.35 and 3.20 for the same yrs.

    Do I come in non creamy layer ?
    The income told are gross total income as per ITR , from business.
    Plz send a reply (if possible) at

    youvraj.dabur@gmail.com

    Regards

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  123. Sir,
    My father is a clerk in IOB....what category do I come under...creamy or non creamy?pls help me sir...

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  124. HELLO SIR
    I AM A STUDENT AND UNDER OBC
    MY FATHER INCOME IS UNDER 6 LAKS
    SHOULD I HAVE TO CONSIDER MY MOTHERS INCOME ALSO FOR BEING UNDER OBC NON CREAMY ??

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  125. Resected Sir/Madam,
    I have given IBPS PO exam 2016.Now, i have an interview in january 2017 and i have an digitised OBC certificate having date 20/11/2015 ,so i want to know that is it valid for current financial year 2016-17 as authorities demand fresh certificate of current financial year for seeking employment in government jobs.Also, i went to Tehsildar and he told that digital OBC certificate made only once and there is no need to renew it but what to do if IBPS official do not accept my 2015 date certificate ,so please suggest me in this regard.

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  126. Sir, my father is a high school teacher (not Group A nor Group B with no attestation powers vested to him) but every time I go to the Sub Divisional Magistrate Office,in Durgapur, West Bengal , they say that your father earns more than Rs.6lacs as per Income Tax Form No.16 and not only they had rejected my OBC Proforma since April 2016 application several times but also used some insulting and inappropriate words. I felt helpless in this matter , and I told them that give in writing the reason for rejection of my OBC Proforma renewal form or I will take video footage of your misdeeds of harassing common peole like us, but is of no use. I also do not know the exact rules regarding Governments orders regarding OBC or am I not elligibe really? Sir, please help me in this fight with your valuable knowledge,support and guide me in the correct path whatever be it. thank you

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  127. Hey!
    I am not staying with my parents.i am separated.i am a PSU employee drawing salary less than six lakhs.Due to some other jobs ,it is essential to get NCL certificate.so here what to do for father's income?He is also an employee of PSU.what to do pls clarify it..

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  128. Helloo sir this is nagaraju, as my father is a class 3 employee and his salary p.a is 7L and local revenue authorites rejected my application for non creamy layer as salary is above 6L but as per rules salary should not be considered for class 3 emoloyee is it right? And any other way of getting non creamy layer status...please help me sir

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  129. Sir my father retired before a month , . His last salary was 14 lakhs , . Now he is not earning so will I come in creamy or non creamy layer for this 2017 Upsc CSE ?

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  130. Hello sir,
    My father is a retired govt aided teacher and his annual income for the past 4 years has been around 1.5 lakh/annum.My mother is a home maker.I am a software engineer with a salary of 3 lakh/annum.My brothers work as software engineers and are married.Will only my father's income be considered to decide creamy layer status or what ?I belong to bc-d category. Will i be considered under non-creamy layer for appearing UPSC exam

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  132. Sir , my father is a group B non -gazetted central government employee( Inspector) ...in central excise and customs ...and that too he got promoted after 40 yrs ...my father's income is above 6 lakhs ....when I enquired the issuing authority they said that the current package should not exceed Rs 4.5 lakhs..so sir may I fall under the obc non creamy layer or not?? And if yes then what should I do to convince them and get my certificate????please reply soon sir because I have my interview scheduled and I have to submit the certificate ..

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  133. Sir I belong to OBC of Karnataka list, my father is a high-school teacher with gross salary of 3.9 lakh and net salary 4.9 lakh do I belong to non creamy layer?

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  134. Sir gud evening my name is kasim basha shaik. Iam commenting regarding reservation category. As I have applied for civils in 2016 as obc category because I have certificate belonging to BCE provided by my state(ap),thasildar as I belong to BCE and that reservation was give by the state govt to SHAIKS. so I have applied as obc but later I checked the central list and came to conclusion that I belong to General category. So now iam in a confusion that should I apply as General category if I apply as general category guy will it make me any problem as my profile have been given as OBC so it is deceiving the upsc. So now Iam unable to understand what to do sir can u please suggest me any solution regarding this

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  135. Sir,

    Firstly thank you for taking such a great profession of teaching even after getting to IAS.

    Sir I belong to OBC category. To claim the benefits under OBC non creamy layer in UPSC what all certificates shall be produced.

    Apart from the standard OBC certificate showing non creamy layer status, should I even have to produce any kind of wealth certificate separately again. If so whom to approach for the same.

    No website is giving clarification on this.

    Please reply.

    Regards,
    Sharath

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  136. Dear Sir,

    I request you please guide me on below case where I want to check for Non Creamy Layer eligibility for me and my wife.

    1. My self is banker with salary of 8 lakh. my wife is also banker and earning 6 lakh. My mother is house wife and father is business man earning 3 lakh. Do I fall in Non Creamy Layer ?

    2. My wife is banker and earning 6 lakh. Her father is LIC employee and earning 10 lakh from salary her mother is housewife.

    3. After marriage my wife status will be of my cast or she will remain in her cast.

    4. After marriage for parent income calculaton who will be considered as parents for my wife. father In law/mother in law or Father/mother.
    5. Is state and center OBC certificate is different ?

    please guide as I am not able to get answer of this from any one.

    Regards
    Lukhvinder Singh
    8696948572

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